The ranking can be seen on this page.
http://amsat-br.org/QO-100/qo100ft8.php
To qualify, the received spot must have an SNR lower than -18 dB.
73, Edson PY2SDR
The ranking can be seen on this page.
http://amsat-br.org/QO-100/qo100ft8.php
To qualify, the received spot must have an SNR lower than -18 dB.
73, Edson PY2SDR
Display MoreHallo ...
i will try to let run my rx monitor on FT4 and FT8...
received spots are sent with 23cm frequency marking (so not all spotted in PSK31reporter
LINK last 12hours...
https://pskreporter.info/pskma…band=480000000-1400000000
Additional NOTE
some station are marked with unknown frequency in PSK 31 reporter
so they can not be seen with 23cm filter
maybe it is time to open PSK31reporter to 3cm (10.368/10.489 MHz)
73 de dg0opk
The experiment is a reverse beacon (receive only).
73, Edson PY2SDR
AMSAT-Brazil is organizing a reverse beacon FT8 QRPp experiment/contest via the QO-100 NB transponder.
https://amsat-uk.org/2020/03/16/amsat-br-qo-100-ft8/
Participate!!
73, Edson PY2SDR
Hello Peter,
I have one unit here and the LO wobbles a lot. Could you check if you have the same issue with your unit?
73, Edson PY2SDR
Display MoreI have been working on my satellite station. I currently have receive working quite well with a 60cm offset dish using an unmodified Octagon OTLSO with an RTL-SDR.com V3 dongle.
For the software I am using my own linHPSDR Linux software, which was originally written to work with the HPSDR/Apache Labs Radios, which I have been adding support for SoapySDR so I can use it with the RTL-SDR dongle and devices which it supports. I am also working on getting my LimeSDR working which I intend using for transmit.
Next steps are to build a dual feed and also to get a 2.4GHz PA.
Hello John,
This looks VERY VERY nice!
73, Edson PY2SDR
PY2SDR Seems to me that you still have around 10 dB transponder noise ? If that is true: "Wow!"
Hi Remco,
The BW you see is the SDRPlay BW after decimation. It is about 300 kHz. Transponder noise is about 2.4~3 dB above the LNBF noise floor.
73, Edson PY2SDR
OK here it is the TFF1017 PLL in the LNB.
If the weather is good enough tomorrow i will try an unmodified GM201 and report the differences to the octagon OTSLO
VY73 DB8TF
The PLL loop-filter components are external to the T105/1017 chip. May be the loop-filter could be improved. But changing components will be a major challenge due to the small sizes.
73, Edson PY2SDR
I took some Pictures
vy73 DB8TF
I have a LNBF with the T1015 (NXP TFF1015) and it wobbles. The wobbling doesn't seem to be related to temperature. It may be something intrinsic to the PLL.
73, Edson PY2SDR
Display MoreOK, the promo video on 10882MHz (LO 9360MHz with 24MHz xtal) is stable with quality 67% on my 130cms RX dish.
For that purpose the GM201 with changed xtal works ok.
Now it's time to take a closer look at the "wobbling" on the NB transponder.
vy73 DB8TF
Do you know what mixer/pll chip the GM201 uses?
73, Edson PY2SDR
Hi Edson, the reduced noise level shalll not have an effect on the actual S/N of individual users. Some brief measurements seems to indicate that the beacon level actually did not change. Keep in mind also, that the beacons are currently send from AMSAT-DL HQ in Bochum and we have a lot of wind and rain at the moment
On the other side we have observed that the CW, SSB and PSK signals now sound much clearer which indicates that the transponder might have been in the non-linear regio before. Lets wait for exact measurements and more observations in the next days... Unfortunately the "tombstone" signal disappeared, which might have also been a good indicator.. hihihi 73s Peter
Hi Peter!
Thanks for the comments. My concern is that the new levels could impact stations with 90cm dishes at the edge of the footprint. But this concern needs to be substantiated with actual observations and measurements. I will request some amateurs here to observe.
I will also redo the tests with my antenna at different times.
73, Edson PY2SDR
Hello Peter,
Transponder noise floor now just about 2.5 dB above LNB noise floor here (GG56tv - southern Brazil). The SNR for the BPSK400 beacon has also decreased about 2 dB.
My setup is a 120 cm offset dish and Octagon OSLO LNBF.
It would be nice if the transponder noise floor could be a little bit higher. This would give those of us at the edge of the footprint a little more margin.
73, Edson PY2SDR
Hello
Which LNB is better now if I don't want to modify it. Just for plug'n'play.
An Octagon Optima model https://www.octagon-germany.eu/produkte/lnb/optima-serie/ or the one from Pollin https://www.pollin.de/p/univer…edia-gm-201-0-1-db-571751 ? Both with PLL of course. Or can I take any one with PLL?
Tnx Thomas
Thomas,
I have been testing some LNBF models with PLL and some are not good for our application. The best ones so far are the ones that use the RDA3565ES chip. The ones with RDA3560 chips are also ok. But watch out for the ones with chips labeled 3566 or 3568 (not sure these chips are RDA). The LNBFs with the 3566/3568 chips suffers from some rapid wobbling frequency changes. I have also tested a couple of LNBFs with the NXP TFF1015 chip and they also suffers from some wobbling.
73, Edson PY2SDR
I have done some tests with BPS125R with very good results. We can schedule a QSO if you want.
73, Edson PY2SDR
I did some tests with PSK125R (125 bps BPSK + NASA r=1/2, k=7 convolutional FEC code) via the transponder and could copy my own signal very well. I am using FLdigi and 1.5W into an 1.2m offset dish. RX is an Octagon Optima OLSO without mods. The FLdigi AFC can track the LNBF LO drift quite well.
I will be calling CQ around 10489.625 GHz tonight and for the next few days after 22:00 UTC. Replies will be much appreciated.
73, Edson PY2SDR
AMSAT-BR
Call: PY2SDR (Edson)
QTH: GG56tv (São Paulo state, Brazil)
RX antenna diameter: 1.2m offset
NB noise floor increase: 10.5 dB
TX antenna diameter: 1.2m offset (being prepared)
SSB RF power: 1W (being prepared)
RX Rig: Octagon OSLO (unmodified), SDRPlay RSP1A, SDRUno
TX RIg: SDRAngel, PlutoSDR, WiFi driver amp, WiFi PA
Latency of Adalm-Pluto...
I think a not negligible problem is the digital processing times plus the latency over the satellite. Since come equal 1500 mS together (RX 600mS - Sat Latency 250mS - TX 600mS). Maybe a problem for FT8?
For FT8, a delay of 1500 msec is not an issue.
Display Moremaybe we should rename the thread to "ES2HAIL pirate is alive!"
But it's not really funny.. we already had to apologize for this.
Obviously it must be someone with the required skills, not patient enough..
Perhaps someone can make a "fingerprint" of the transmission and we can identify later who it is..
This could be a good project for cubesats (one or more, perhaps an international effort between AMSAT organizations). A receiver on 2.4 GHz with a linear demodulator, an ADC and some embedded FFT software that would store spectrum for later analysis. Triangulation could be done using similar algorithm as the one used by the Argos satellites. Since the life span of Es'Hail-2 is over a decade, there is enough time to implement such project.