Posts by DH2VA

    dbFS is decibel relative to the full scale of the SDR receiver (which is max sum amplitudes of all signals to the SDR input). It is rather pointless to give any numbers here as these will vary depending on LNB, cable used, temperature to only name a few.


    The ONLY way to properly max the antenna pointing is to max on any of the beacon signal levels, regardless of the reading itself. Then to compare different setups to each other you have to check the transponder excess noise referenced to the thermal noise outside of the transponder BW. Select a display BW of at least 3 MHz and you should see a hump about 600 kHz wide and 3-4 dB sticking out of the noise floor left and right. This is the transponder passband and the 'stick out' value is the only one which is independent of the SDR software used. For 80cm, 3-4dB is fine, if you don't see this I would not touch the TX and figure out RX first.

    I don't think the OMs with an errornous setting of 3.0 kHz in the TX modulation filter (SDR console for example) are the problem of this topic but rather the few gentlemen overdriving their PA and therefore generating up to 10 kHz wide splatter (which is actually IM3). Many operators have good to excellent signals, some of the overdrivers are reasonable once you explain the cause of their bad signal to them (actually, the readability of the voice does suffer considerably as well). The very small fraction of those who don't care, I have no idea what to do.

    Der Vollstaendigkeit halber: AMSAT-DL nutzt bei seinen Bodenstationen in DL und Katar ebenfalls TS-2000 dank der grosszuegigen Unterstuetzung von Kenwood und JAMSAT. Da diese Geraete bei uns aber fest verkabelt sind haben wir den zum Empfangszweig gehoerenden Sender 'totgelegt' indem wir die entsprechende Steuerleitung im Geraet abgezogen haben.

    It depends. If they actually require high speed S-band downlink then 4m might be necessary due to their link budget.
    HOWEVER: the required pointing and tracking accuracy coupled with the high angular rates for a LEO satellite will make this super complicated and carries a huge risks for problems and/or failures.

    Bottom line:

    if you don't need 4m, than I completely agree with HB9SKA

    if you do need 4m because of link budget, you have designed your mission wrong.

    Return loss (or matching) is only one side of the coin. 3 turn helix feeds are known to have not very good circularity. The only way to measure this is on a test range with two antennas (TX-RX, one preferable being a linear antenna) used and one being rotated along its boresight axis. Good circularity would result in no change of received signal level while rotating.

    For the RF path I would settle for nothing less then ATC capacitors. You may use a trimmer for finding the initial setpoint but I would then measure the capacitance and replace it with a suitable ATC type cap (maybe even two in parallel to reduce ESR). Lowest ESR @ GHz and therefore small losses, little self-heating. Both desired for RF output path.

    Mea culpa, ich hab den Schaltplan falsch herum interpretiert. Jetzt aber:


    EINGANG -> Abschwaecher -> MMIC -> 2x LPF -> combiner -> 2 parallele PAs -> combiner -> AUSGANG


    Sorry fuer die Verwirrung, geht auf mich. Dann ist ein Tiefpass am Ausgang nicht schlecht, aber evtl. nicht absolut notwendig.

    Grund: das allseits verwendete Patchfeed (und auch alle Helix Antennen) sind eher schmalbandig und werden auf 4.8 GHz nicht mehr so gut funktionieren. Also wird eine evtl. erzeugte Oberwelle kaum abgestrahlt. Weiterhin ist es fuer alle PAs von Vorteil, wenn sie deutlich unter dem P1dB Punkt betrieben werden (weniger IM3, d.h. sauberes Signal) und dann gibt es auch weniger Oberwellen.


    Wenn jemand die Oberwellenunterdrueckung der 6W PA fuer verschiedene Eingangsleistungen mal messen koennte waere das natuerlich Spitze, hi. Dann wuessten wir es genau.